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Radical Health Rebel
127 - Dealing with Fungal & Parasite Overgrowths with Martin Pytela
Mercury toxicity from dental fillings left our guest, Martin Patella, grappling with a series of health challenges that conventional medicine couldn't solve. On the Radical Health Rebel podcast, Martin illuminates his transformative journey from Czechoslovakia to becoming a health advocate and the founder of Life Enthusiast, a platform dedicated to tackling chronic degenerative and inflammatory diseases. He shares how seeking the root causes of health issues, rather than simply treating symptoms, led him to explore the interplay between mindset, electromagnetic fields, heavy metals, and geoengineering in our overall well-being.
Join our conversation as we unravel the intricate connections between gut health, long-term antibiotic use, and metal fillings, and how these elements can lead to persistent health imbalances. Martin and I investigate the detrimental impact of chlorinated water, antibiotics, and glyphosate-infused agricultural practices on personal and environmental health. We delve into the potential benefits of zeolite and humic acid for detoxifying the body and fostering a flourishing gut microbiome, underscoring the importance of tailoring dietary choices to individual health needs and metabolic types.
In this episode, we emphasize the power of prevention and the significance of nurturing the body's inner terrain to naturally fend off health invaders. Drawing from Taoist philosophy, Martin advocates for a nutritional approach that avoids temporary pharmaceutical fixes and focuses on managing stress and emotional states through understanding one's metabolic and blood types. We round off our discussion by considering the broader societal influences on health, stressing the need for regular detoxification and empowerment amidst environmental and societal challenges.
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Uncovering Fungal and Parasite Overgrowth
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Healing Terrain
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Optimal Gut Health Strategies
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Nutritional Choices for Optimal Health
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Healing Trauma and Subconscious Programming
52:03
Detoxification and Nutrition for Health
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Agricultural and Environmental Concerns
1:09:15
Parasites, Toxins, and Health Strategies
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Promoting Individual Freedom and Empowerment
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Well, that was part of the deal. Mercury has a very toxic effect on your body and the toxicity itself is. I think it's impossible for the immune system or for the regulatory system of the body to overcome the metal toxicity and I think it chooses to try and decompose it with the method of last resort, which would be fungal. Decompose this enemy Well, if we can't expel it, let's try to decompose it in place.
Speaker 2:Welcome to the Radical Health Rebel podcast. I'm your host, lee Brandom. This work started for me several decades ago when I started to see the impact I could make on people, helping them to identify the root cause of their health problems that no doctor could figure out, including serious back, knee, shoulder and neck injuries, acne and eczema issues, severe gut health problems, even helping couples get pregnant after several IVF treatments had failed. And it really moves me to be able to help people in this way, and that is why I do what I do and why we have this show.
Speaker 2:In this episode of the Radical Health Rebel podcast, I speak with Martin Patella about fungal and parasite overgrowth, why they occur, what they reveal about our overall health and how we can address them by focusing on increasing vitality rather than resorting to pharmaceutical or herbal antimicrobials. We also delve into the roles of mindset, emfs, heavy metals and geoengineering in these overgrowths, exploring how these factors might impact the body's natural balance. Stay tuned for this insightful conversation packed with practical advice and thought-provoking perspectives that challenge the conventional approaches to fungus and parasite overgrowth. Martin Patella, welcome to the Radical Health Podcast. Thanks for coming on the show. I'm very happy to be here. Thank you, and I'm happy that you're here, martin, and to kick things off, could you share a little bit about your background, including your educational and professional background, and how you became interested in fungal and parasitic overgrowth?
Speaker 1:Well, back. I grew up in Czechoslovakia and went to a school there. I grew up in Czechoslovakia and went to a school there. I left there as a 24-year-old when I finally realized that there was no way I could live in a communist country. A police state completely scares me. You just moved to another one now then and it caught up with me. It just crept up on me. I don't know where I'm going to escape next. Well, anyway, so I took education in computer science and business administration in the Institute of Economics. So when I got out I was in Canada and, well, I was learning the language. So I was working in a sawmill. Actually, I was young, I was strong, I could do all kinds of things.
Speaker 1:90 days in the unionized contract kicked in All of a sudden. I had health coverage and dental coverage all paid for thank you very much by the employer. So it had been like two years since I was to a dentist by that time. So I went in, had myself a checkup and I thought well, there's a guy with a diploma and a white coat, he's going to look after me. Well, not so much. They sold me on. My teeth were in terrible shape. I needed 12 fillings. I don't know why all the other teeth never deteriorated. But I needed 12 fillings and of course I didn't know the difference. They said you can have the silver fillings or you can have the white fillings. The white fillings are extra. I didn't have the money so I thought well, silver fillings, what the heck? What do I care? Little did I know that it was mercury amalgam and that mercury was the most toxic thing to the human body on the planet.
Speaker 1:So soon thereafter, after they were all installed, I started having problems and it was a fairly rapid decline. All installed, I started having problems and it was a fairly rapid decline. I started having chronic pain, plantar fasciitis, carpal tunnel, my back went out pretty badly very frequently. So periodontal disease, allergies, weight gain, you name it. It was just all going downhill. And I, of course, I went to the professionals, the orthopedic surgeon and the chiropractor and the naturopath and all of that looking for help. And all of these trained professionals were pointing at symptoms and treating symptoms and never asking and what is the cause of it? By that time, like five, six years in, I was working in the computer industry, business consulting, and we would always ask the obvious question what is the cause, looking for the reason why something is happening.
Speaker 1:And so eventually at some point I just had enough. I mean, I was quite desperate, I was really sick, so I decided to take things into my own hands. So I dove into books, started reading. By the time I was done, I think I was equal to any naturopath in my education and I finally figured it out. Dawn dawned on me yes, it is the mercury. So then I went and found ways to get the mercury out of the body and repair the tissues and so on. So instead of crawling on all fours from my rocking chair to the toilet and back, I resumed normal activity. I think I was at my sickest at about 35 years of age.
Speaker 1:So it took me about 10 years to just lose hope or take things into my own hands. Lose hope or take things into my own hands. I think this is a classic, where you have the protagonist who overcomes the challenger. This is so common in our industry. People get motivated by their own personal disaster and either succumb or overcome. Well, I chose to overcome. Either succumb or overcome.
Speaker 1:Well, I chose to overcome. So, about another five years in, I decided that I was going to end the business consulting and started an online business called Life Enthusiast where we've sold products that help people with these chronic degenerative inflammatory diseases products that help people with these chronic degenerative inflammatory diseases and about 10 years in, I fell upon metabolic typing, which is a method by which you can determine how your genetics intersect with foods, and that's really helpful because it helps to determine how you alkalize, how you acidify, how the physiology interacts with the foods you're eating and how you gain weight, how you lose weight. Those are really helpful things because once you understand that, you really do much better in your relationship with food.
Speaker 2:Yeah, absolutely, and it's interesting. I mean, you know, I've been a metabolic typing advisor for over 20 years, almost 21 years now, and I have had people on the podcast who I know are metabolic typing advisors, but no one's actually mentioned it before, which is quite interesting. And you know, my experience of metabolic typing, even now, is that it never ceases to amaze me. And even now, yeah, even now, you know you'll get a client and they'll say, oh, I can't believe how different I feel from three weeks ago. Right, and even even now it's still like wow, you know, even after I've seen hundreds of people with this, you know, have the same now, it's still like wow, you know, even after I've seen hundreds of people with this, you know, have the same experience, it's still like it still amazes me how, how amazing it is to me it's a lot like, uh, getting a pair of glasses.
Speaker 1:You know like these days I need glasses because of my presbyopia, but, um, without them, everything's fuzzy. With them on, oh, I can see you with great deal of clarity and that's just like knowing which type you are. You no longer have to wonder why am I feeling so torn up or why am I so anxious, whatever it is that that needs to happen.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. So where did the interest in fungal and parasite overgrowth come in?
Speaker 1:Well, that was part of the deal. Mercury has a very toxic effect on your body itself is I think it's impossible for the immune system or for the regulatory system of the body to overcome the metal toxicity and I think it chooses to try and decompose it with the method of last resort, which would be fungal Decompose this NME. Well, if we can't expel it, let's try to decompose it in place, and I think a lot of people will suffer with fungal infections, primarily candida, I think, but others as a consequence of their toxic burden.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's quite interesting when I think of my own story. So I was very young when I started getting metal fillings probably four or five and then those teeth obviously fell out. My adult teeth grew and then I just continued getting more, you know mercury amalgam fillings and I also had a mercury amalgam root canal as well. I wasn't aware of till about 30 years later that I'd actually had had that done. So I had five metal fillings. One root canal that was probably 50 of the visible tooth was mercury amalgam and around the same time I started getting fillings in my adult teeth. I also started getting quite severe acne.
Speaker 2:Now, what was interesting? When I got to the point when I was 31, and I got to the point where I was starting to work out because I was working in health at that time and I started to realize so I'd also been taking antibiotics for 18 years and I went to see this guy and he ran loads of tests on me and he said first thing you got to do is stop taking antibiotics. He said you've got a candida overgrowth, said first thing you got to do is stop taking antibiotics. She said you've got a candida overgrowth and so, considering I had a mouthful of mercury, and I've been taking antibiotics for all that time. It's no surprise I had a fungal infection, and it could have been the last decade or more that it was the fungus that could well have been causing the acne as well.
Speaker 1:Yeah, probably all related. All of this happens in the gut. That's, yeah, probably all related. I mean, all of this happens in the gut. That's where this battleground is right. When you drink chlorinated water just basic tap water, why do you drink chlorine? Well, it's in the water because it's there to kill the pathogenic bacteria.
Speaker 2:But it kills all bacteria.
Speaker 1:So you drink chlorinated water. It's wiping out the microbiome in your gut. And then you really put a fine point on it. With the constant antibiotics you must have had a very distorted terrain in your gut, so no wonder the body was not functioning well.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and even well, how long has it been now? 24, 25 years later, you know when I, when I, run stool tests, my gut microbiome is still not what you'd expect for someone that lives the lifestyle that I lead as well. So you know there's no doubt it did some.
Speaker 1:you know long-term damage, as, as again, you'd probably expect, taking drugs like that for such a long period of time yeah, and as time goes on, I'm learning new things, right Like I'm learning about the pH balances, how you need to have acidic stomach but alkaline duodenum, and how you need to supply the right things, and, if the microbes are not working correctly, how the interaction of prebiotics, probiotics and postbiotics functions, postbiotics being the product that the probiotics, the microbes, are supposed to be producing. They're supposed to be producing short-chain fatty acids like propionic or butyric or lactic things like that, and so if you have misconfigured terrain or underfed terrain, you will end up with problems. That's where there are these basics, right, so get the metals out of the body. If you are, so long as you have the metals in your body, you will never get right, so they have to come out.
Speaker 1:And now, lately, not only that, but we now have this new antibiotic called glyphosate. It's Roundup, and that thing is very, very good at killing off the gut terrain, so that, especially in America, where it's being applied in great levels, it's causing a lot of problems. Well, hence the epidemic of obesity, diabetes and all the other metabolic diseases that are essentially at the back end of two problems One is the destruction of the inner terrain and then the destruction of the outer terrain the soils.
Speaker 1:So the foods that are being made are highly processed, food-like objects that we eat thinking that we're feeding our body, but in fact we're doing a horrible job on that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's the right phrase, isn't it? We're doing a horrible job on it, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's the right phrase, isn't it? Food-like products. They're not actually food, they're food-like. Yes, you know, most of the things if you go to a supermarket are food-like, but they're not things that are going to nourish your body.
Speaker 1:They're going to probably take more energy away than they're putting in, or or you will have abundance of calories, but of nutrients that the body really needs. So of course, here comes. A weak terrain attracts parasites. Parasites only take up residents and tissues that are weaker than they should be. You can see that on the field. If you have an area that's undernourished, that's the area that the pests will attack. In a human body, it's a similar thing. Wherever you're the weakest, that's where this thing will happen. So, of course, typically our digestive systems or digestion elimination is impacted and therefore that's where the parasites will be most likely to take up residence, because we're weaker and unable to defend.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, just in case someone I think everyone knows what fungus is, but someone might be listening to this thinking what do they mean when they say parasites? What would be your definition of a parasite?
Speaker 1:Well, a parasite would be anything that's living inside of you, that's stealing your resources in that sense, right, living off of you. So in this sense, the government is the parasite, or your children are a parasite that you willingly take on. Yeah, they're living off of you, yeah, right, yeah, now, in a physical sense, in the body. So we have a complex terrain. Some of it is beneficial, some of it is symbiotic, but parasite is not symbiotic. Parasite gives me no advantage, it only takes. Now you can have a parasite living in your gut or in your eye or wherever they take up residence, wherever they want.
Speaker 1:Now you asked about the definition of fungus. So fungus is a class of beings of their own. They typically are decomposers In nature. They're everywhere. Like you go for a walk in the forest, if you kick over a piece of wood that's lying on the ground, you will see on the underside all these white fibers that are connecting it to the ground and the fungus is growing in. It's called mycelium, which is a fibrous network that's throughout. It's spreading its tentacles into the cells and extracting resources and decomposing all of the formerly living matter. So of course, we live with fungus. Fungus makes beer, fungus makes wine, alcohol. We make bread with fungus. Yeast is our friend in many ways because it helps to pre-digest things. Yeah.
Speaker 2:And most plants also. They live symbiotically with fungus as well. Right, most plants are what's called mycorrhizal formers, right, exactly, Well put. So the fungus. Funny that we're talking about fungus and parasites, because one of the roles of fungus with a plant is to protect the plant from the parasites.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes, the famous discovery of penicillin. Right, there's this piece of bread that's going moldy and this particular piece of the penicillium fell off somewhere into the Petri dish and showed that blank area around which the bacteria could not grow. That was the discovery. When the fungus is defending itself, it's creating these substances that will block the growth of specific bacteria. Anyway, so there's the good use of fungus and bad use of fungus. The trouble with the antibiotics is that the enemy, or the antagonist, is willing to modify and change and genetically evolve, so it doesn't take too long for the bacteria to become resistant to the specific antibiotic. So I don't think we have too many years left where the antibiotics will still be usable. I think we'll be back to antibiotic-resistant strains of bacteria causing all kinds of trouble, and therefore the only hope we have is in strength.
Speaker 1:Yeah in strength in the human biome, the bacteria that live within us, to be stronger and more resilient than the ones that are coming in to perhaps take us apart.
Speaker 2:I think we've got a good idea of what fungus and parasites are now and generally, when people are talking about parasites, quite often they're talking about things like worms and nematodes and things like that. Right, right, right, and you mentioned it's important for us to be strong. So what kind of things can we do? Is there things that we can eat that can perhaps make us stronger to help resist these things?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I have been in my own laboratory. I have been testing things on myself and I found that, for example, zeolite, specifically clinoptilolite, is really good. It's a mineral that is very good at binding electropositive things, so it will bind things that are essentially oxidating your body, making your body worse. So that would be the heavy metals like lead, mercury, cadmium, uranium, whatever that gets absorbed, but also volatile organic compounds like fire retardants and formaldehyde that's off-gassing from your flooring and other things that are off lives so comfortable, so much less difficult than our ancestors had, are actually killing us. At the same time, the forever chemicals like Teflon and related are just horrendously toxic to us. So the good thing is that the zeolite is one of those binders that does bind it. So I'm using it, have used it for the last 25, 30 years and expect to use it forever.
Speaker 1:The other thing, the terrain right Humic acid, which has its name from humus, which is essentially the compost or decomposed plants, is what. When we put that inside our gut, it creates the terrain in which the microbiome thrives. So we can really improve the resilience within us by taking these supplements that are allowing the inner terrain to be more resilient. So those are the two things that really make the biggest difference. And then, of course, we can supplement. We need to feed the bacteria prebiotics, oligosaccharides, things like inulin or others. I mean there are about eight oligosaccharides that are important and each of them feeds a different strain or species of microbes. So all of that should be present. So all of that should be present. So I have a supplement that a fellow researcher put together called Panaceum. If you can believe it, he actually came up with a name that suggests how good it really is.
Speaker 2:What do you think of? You know it's quite. I don't know if the word popular is the right word to use, but there's certainly a growing number of people suggesting that. You know you can live very healthily on a carnivorous diet and it doesn't harm the microbiome.
Speaker 1:Do you have any thoughts on that? I think the microbiome goes dormant when you feed it nothing. So one we have this thing called appendix. At the end of the small intestine, beginning of the large intestine, there's this finger-sized organ that holds a backup of all your microbes. So if you for some reason have a wipeout, like a diarrhea, dysentery, something that just strips the entire system from your mouth all the way to the anus, there still is a backup copy of all the microbes in your appendix. So it's not there for nothing, it's there as a backup Anyway, so it could repopulate from there. But if you feed your gut no plant matter, no fiber, no prebiotics, the probiotics have nothing to eat, so they will all go dormant, and so, indeed, you can extract nutrients from, say, beef. I mean grass-fed beef is a wonderful complex of nutrients that will sustain you for years, and so for some people it's better to have no microbiome rather than a messed up bad microbiome. So that's why I think this carnivorous diet will work, will stop the inflammation that people are suffering from.
Speaker 2:Interesting. Yeah, I mean, I'm a metabolic typing advisor. I don't believe that any one particular diet is right for everybody. I believe that what works for one person is not going to work for the next person, and it's just a subject that intrigues me and I don't know all the answers, but it's quite interesting and obviously I speak to many people on the podcast and some people say, no, you, absolutely, you must eat plant food because that's what feeds the microbiome. And there are other people saying, well, actually, no, you can eat very healthily for a long. You know, I was actually listening to someone today talking about a lady that's been carnivore for 65 years and you know she's in her 80s and she's still got absolutely no symptoms. She's still doing really well.
Speaker 1:I think she has all the nutrients that are needed because the cow has made the meat. All the nutrients that are needed because the cow has made the meat is really the richest source of all of the plants that have been pre-digested by the cow anyway. So I think it's okay. However, I think it has to do with the blood type. I think blood type O's will do a lot better than, say, a's or B's. Yeah, I think also that a fast oxidizer will make a potentially decent meat eater, but a sympathetic dominant will probably end up in a suicide. Yeah, you would become just so anxious that you would probably not survive it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, interesting. I mean, I'm a fat oxidizer. My blood type is O negative. Yeah, I do very well. I do very well on a, you know, predominant meat-based diet, but there's still a little bit of plant-based food in there, right?
Speaker 1:And I am about as opposite to you as you can imagine. I'm a sympathetic and AB blood, so my best food is a fruit salad. It would make you so miserable you wouldn't want to die.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it would make me extremely hungry as well.
Speaker 1:Well, that too, but anxiety riddled and unable to function, you couldn't do it, whereas to me it's just the best thing, right?
Speaker 2:Yeah yeah. It actually saved me a hell of a lot of money if I was a slow organiser. I suppose.
Speaker 1:Yes, yeah, that's true. Yeah, well, hmm.
Speaker 2:So, in terms of fighting off fungal overgrowth or parasitic overgrowth and you kind of mentioned that you know prebiotics is important but and you mentioned supplements but are there specific foods that you would recommend as being important? Right when 35 year old amanda first scheduled to see me, she'd been suffering for 19 years from severe IBS, diarrhea and fecal incontinence, along with abdominal pain and bloating. Her condition had not only made life uncomfortable for Amanda but very inconvenient, as she had to walk two hours to work every day along a route that had public toilets and she'd never been on holiday as an adult because of her condition. The only advice that several doctors and specialists had given Amanda was to take Imodium, and when she first saw me, she was taking five Imodium a day and wasn't getting any better.
Speaker 2:To help Amanda, I ran tests to find out what foods were right for her metabolic type, to see which foods she was sensitive to and to assess her gut. Microbiome Tests showed that Amanda had several food sensitivities and a parasite infection. Over the coming weeks I coached Amanda to eat right of her type and to replace the food she was sensitive to and a protocol to deal with her parasite infection, and after three months Amanda was IBS free and she also reported her skin was much improved and she had lost weight and she booked a holiday for her and her husband to New York, as they'd never been on a proper honeymoon because of her IBS. And if you're suffering like Amanda was and you want to get to the root cause of your problem, you can arrange a consultation with me at wwwbodycheckcouk and if we're a good fit, I could help you achieve the same kind of results as Amanda. Now back to the podcast.
Speaker 1:Well, there are two strategies. Right, you try to make war with it, as in you take antiparasitics. The most famous one lately has been wormwood. One lately has been wormwood which has this ingredient in it called artemisinin, and it became very famous in the days of covid because this, this horse paste, all of a sudden became so popular, because it helps people shut down all the parasitic problems in their body.
Speaker 1:But that's war, right, that's fighting, as opposed to, if you can think of the Lao Tzu or the Taoist art of war is where they're saying the best way of waging war is to never have to engage with the enemy. And so, to me, if I make my inner world strong enough that it will repel the invaders, I don't have to fight the invaders with the… what shall we call it? The war machine? Right, anti-parasitics, of which we have plenty of them. I mean, we have fluconazole and monistat that we can wipe out all the candida or the monelia all in one go.
Speaker 1:So if you are riddled with it and you want to have a leg up, well, okay, just do that, start with it. But it will get you nowhere until you actually change the terrain. Reminds me of this Cutting your grass, cutting the lawn right. That's what pharmaceuticals will do. They will help you make it look nice and even they just okay good-looking lawn. But if you leave it alone or if you let water on it and fertilizer on it, it'll grow big again. The only way you can get rid of the grass is if you just dig it up and turn it up, or you starve it, which means no nutrients and no water.
Speaker 1:So interesting, point right the glyphosate Roundup kills plants by killing the microbes at their roots so that they are no longer able to uptake any nutrients from the soil. Yeah, yeah, so we humans are being killed by the trace amounts of glyphosate that's traveling on the foods that were grown with the help of it. These days that's wheat, chickpeas, lentils. It's all over, yeah, Go ahead.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I was just going to say that's all over. Yeah, Go ahead. Yeah, I was just going to say that's pretty scary. So, in terms of if someone's listening to this and they're thinking, okay, so what would be the best thing for me to eat, are you suggesting it's best to find out what your metabolic type is and eat in accordance with that to try and optimize your vitality?
Speaker 1:Yeah, definitely that. I would want to know your blood type and your metabolic type. I mean, the metabolic type itself will help you manage the pH, which will help you manage the emotional life right. Depression lives in over-alkalinity, anxiety lives in over acidity. You should be getting yourself somewhere in the middle where you have some control over your behaviors, instead of being driven by the emotional states Uh-huh. So that, to me, is important. Yeah, that the blood type tells you what you shouldn't eat, that the blood type tells you what you shouldn't eat, which is handy. Yeah, you need to decide whether you need to be on more carbohydrates or not. Some people can do just fine on high protein, because protein is converted into carbohydrates anyway. Yeah, right, yeah. So, yeah, I suppose you can. I think the glycemic index of steak is somewhere around 30, right, I couldn't tell you off the top of my head, but it's definitely low. Yeah, it's definitely low, but it's not a zero you can actually get glucose produced out of meat.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, out of meat. Yeah, yeah, so are there. Are there foods potentially you think people should definitely avoid, regardless of their?
Speaker 1:metabolic type. Okay, all right. Well, there's the fight. Five refined things refined flour, refined sugar, refined plant oil, refined salt and dairy Dairy, because it's homogenized and pasteurized. The Northern European genetics are okay with the Danish cow you know the Holstein and Jersey and those. But most people are not able to handle that. Buffalo seems to be a better choice. I've had so many clients report like, for example, they go to India, eat all the paneer they want. Well, the milk comes from the buffalo, not from the Jersey cow. Then they come to America and the same product, paneer, which is the yogurt now made with the northern breed milk, is causing them all kinds of allergic reactions.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I mean, yeah, definitely agree with you, know the five that you mentioned, but obviously I suppose, if you like, the two key ones would be sugars and the flour, because, both fungus and parasites, they basically live off sugars, don't they?
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay, a bit of chemistry. So starch are three strings of glucose molecules stuck together like this. So when you ingest starch and digest starch, you're getting a flood of pure glucose into your bloodstream. So starch in that sense, whether it's from rice, potato or bread or pasta, all of that is more glucose-producing than sucrose. Sucrose is actually one molecule of glucose, one molecule of fructose. So say rice or potato, the glycemic index is 100 or even 110, whereas sucrose is 70. But interestingly, hfcs, high fructose corn syrup, is 87. So sweetening with HFCS, which has become so popular in America, is higher glycemic index than sweetening with just good old sugar, cane sugar, yeah, anyway, the spike, especially to somebody like you, a fast oxidizer, will be dramatically affected by ingesting these high glycemic index foods. Yeah, boom, you get this huge spike In children.
Speaker 2:That's the behavior when they're running around the room sideways yeah, yeah, I guess that reminds me of of my childhood really, because you know I I grew up in the 70s and the 80s and you know that that time in the uk not many people had much money. You know money was hard to come by, and so was food, and you know my parents both worked really hard to to put food on the table and we never went without food right. But the only choice of drink I had as a child was chlorinated tap water or chlorinated tap water with orange squash in it.
Speaker 1:Right, yeah, it made it flavored. So not only did you get chlorine, you got some glucose too.
Speaker 2:Well, what used to happen is so, for instance, I've been playing sport, which was something I probably did every single day as a child and I'd be really hot and sweaty. I'd say, oh, I need a drink. So I'd make an orange squash and I would drink it, and within about five or ten minutes I'd feel nauseous. I'd start shaking, just so, absolutely terrible. And then then I've got mercury in my mouth as well. I've got all this high sugar diet. You know, again, I ate a lot of starch as a kid because you know that was cheaper to buy. Sure, yeah, oatmeal for breakfast, yeah, lots of potato, lots of bread. And so I've got blood sugar going up and down.
Speaker 1:Yes, I had you would. You would have moments of sheer anxiety and just shaking like a leaf that that's exactly how I'd feel after I had orange squash yeah, um, which is which is logical for a fast oxidizer, and so we have so many people now on this SSRI. 25% of women in the United States are on an antidepressant. It's just insane, and most of it is probably fixable by just understanding the nutritional choices.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah yeah, no, anyway, there's also. I was hearing the other day as well about uh, what's it called? There's a, there's a condition as well when you come off of ssris.
Speaker 1:I don't think what it's called post well, I think it's messing with your brain.
Speaker 2:Yeah yeah, I think it's called post SSRI sexual dysfunction, but it actually has a lot more um symptoms than just affecting sexual function, actually has a multitude of um of of disabilities there are dysregulation.
Speaker 1:yeah, there are dysregulations of so many sorts, for example, the famous Columbine incident in Colorado where the two boys shot up their high school. That was Paxil dysregulation and of course we are not allowed to talk about it. It's getting out now. Talk about it, it's getting out now. But so many of these problems of violence are actually caused by dysregulation of the brain chemicals, by taking psychoactive pharmaceuticals. Yeah, yeah, it's, um, yeah, a lot of either suicidal ideation or or expressing it outward right, like if you're violent toward yourself, you just go and kill yourself. Yeah, either suicidal ideation or expressing it outward right, like if you're violent toward yourself, you just go and heal yourself. Yeah, but if you flip it and you're now violent externally, you're going to be attacking the world. You want to cause as much pain to others as you can possibly inflict. Yeah, yeah, and this is all brain chemicals.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, inflict, yeah, yeah. And this is all brain chemicals. Yeah, yeah. And again, we know, you know, we know that the gut microbiome plays a big role in yes, in the mind as well yeah, 80 of your serotonin and dopamine are made in the gut.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, just, I was just just going to finish off what I was saying. So I'm growing up, I'm drinking orange squash, which definitely wasn't good for me. I was eating bread, rice not a lot of rice, a lot of potato things like ice cream, lots of desserts. I had metal in my mouth, I had acne, I was constipated, I was taking antibiotics, and so, by the time I got to the age of 31, I had a lot. I was constipated, I was taking antibiotics, and so, by the time I got to the age of 31, I had a lot of work to do. Yeah, I was up against it, but I mean, luckily, touch wood, fingers crossed, I turned all that around. But I suppose these things are sent to challenge us, right, and it makes us who we are at the end of the day.
Speaker 1:Yeah, in the end it was the hero's journey. Yeah, you would not know what you know as deeply and with so much conviction if you didn't have such huge contrast in your own life yeah, yeah, absolutely so.
Speaker 2:Just going off a slightly different tangent, but this is an area that I'm also very interested in how, how do you feel people can create the right mindset required to support the body's healing from fungal and parasitic overgrowth?
Speaker 1:well, you know when I, when I talk to people in the coaching situation, I mentioned four categories of problems that create the illness that we're in, which is malnutrition, toxicity, stagnation and trauma. These are the four categories that I focus on. And so malnutrition we talked about quite a bit is the food-like substances that do not deliver the nutrients that you need. Toxicity that's our industrial age pushing onto us toxic things that should never be in our body or in our environment. So we need to get those out and we need to stop the inflow too, meaning that we have to clean up our act. We need to stop being exposed to these things.
Speaker 1:Stagnation, to me, is this Swamp is a wonderful metaphor for something that's stagnant. It's putrid, it's smelly. It's stagnant when we don't move. Our lymphatic system is not moving enough. There's no pump for the lymphatics. So unless you're at least walking or bouncing, jumping something, exercising for sufficient amount of time every day, if you're not exercising sufficiently every day, you'll become stagnant and things don't move and they settle in and you will end up with smelly body parts, smelly feet, smelly crotch. That's pretty much the effect of not enough movement. Gravity will settle things into those two, your feet and your crotch right. So that's the lack of movement. And the one that I think is actually most important is trauma, and that is like this Until we're about six years old, we actually have no conscious control over what's being deposited into our consciousness.
Speaker 1:There are these developmental stages. You could look up Joseph Chilton Pierce and read up all the wonderful work that he's done showing how there are these different gates at nine months and two years and four years and six years of the brain development, where you are actually getting toward being a person with conscious control over how you react. So in childhood, until you're six years old, you may have all kinds of things happen that could be totally innocent. I'll give you an example. The story is known as the lollipop moment. A four-year-old girl is told by her mother yes, you can have the lollipop that your sister is eating as soon as you finish your dinner. Perfectly reasonable statement of a mother who tries to nourish her child. The child decides that I am unlovable because nobody gives anything decent to me now and now she is 30 years old and she's trying to get a job in some high-powered financial institution downtown in the financial center no-transcript. Because in her consciousness the four-year-old deposited I'm unlovable and I deserve nothing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so the way to deal with this is not psychotherapy, because with psychotherapy you are reliving something over and over and over, and when it comes to memories, and when it comes to memories, memories are not played back the same way as we would play something from a DVD or an MP3 file. The way this works is you read the file and you re-deposit it, you re-record it back over top of it. So, depending with what emotion you're reliving a particular memory, you could be making it either weaker or stronger, so you could actually, by reliving something, create memories of things that never happened. Anyway. So, going to that, how do we deal with trauma? There are methods out there emotion code, eft, body talk, quantum healing You're familiar with this right?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I've studied body talk and emotion code.
Speaker 1:Right, there you go. So you are in a great position to help people deal with the deposits that are in the subconscious and to process it and get it out of there without even having to relive whatever the content was. Yeah, and I think that's super important is that we clear this trauma, because the subconscious is driving the bus, it's driving us toward wherever it wants to go and we're we're thinking that we're controlling it, but we're not. Yeah, it's sort of like I'm the passenger in the cab, but the driver has control over the, over the machine, right?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know. Bruce Lipson says around 95% to 99% of our behaviors are subconscious, so we don't even know why we're doing them or we do them automatically. It's like driving a car. If you drive 200 miles on a motorway, probably 90 plus percent of of that you weren't even thinking about driving. You were probably thinking about what was on the radio, or you might be having a telephone call or you might have been speaking to the person next to you. But so if you're focusing on talking to the person next to you, who was who was applying the accelerator and the brake, and if it was a manual gearbox, it was changing the gear because your conscious mind was having a discussion with someone else.
Speaker 1:Exactly that. Yeah, of course you could not do that on your first day driving. You need to first make these behaviors automatic. You need to deposit them into muscle memory, so to speak. So, yeah, you cannot be having a conversation as a new driver because you need to focus everything on the driving. Yeah, but once you've done it a number of times, yeah, absolutely, you can I don't know do do all kinds of conversations, listen to whatever you want to listen to and process multiple things at the same time. Yeah, okay. So anyway, going back to this trauma business, that is one of the in my mind, I think 80% of all problems that we encounter are maybe even more percent are caused by the deposits in our subconscious. And I mean, I remember myself when I realized just how messed up I was. I needed to deal with my mommy problems, daddy problems, brother problems and so on. It all had to be cleared before I was actually able to make decisions that were coming from me rather than from my programming. Yeah, oh, and one more thing.
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Speaker 1:In the invisibles, in the trauma. We now have a new member the Wi-Fi, the mobile phone, the EMF, the electromagnetic frequencies that are coming at us with increasing intensity. That are coming at us with increasing intensity. There's this mechanism in our cells that's called voltage-gated calcium channels and they get triggered by millimeter-length waves, which is the 4G, 5g area. And when you trigger that, when you're flooding calcium into cells, that, when you're flooding calcium into cells, calcium being the signaling element for anxiety, right, it's calcium signals toward sympathetic or towards fight, flight, defend. So a lot of people will be experiencing these anxiety moments in exposure to the radio frequencies. So I think that's skewing the whole society toward short-tempered, anxiety-riddled behaviors.
Speaker 2:Yeah, short-tempered anxiety riddled behaviors, yeah, so, so, for someone who's dealing with fungal and parasite infection, they need they probably are going to need to deal with some kind of um, childhood program, let's call it, and some of the ways you mentioned, like eft or some other forms of energy medicine, can be quite useful. Um and and based on what you just said, also perhaps protecting yourself in some way or, uh, avoiding as much as possible exposure to wi-fi and 4G and 5G, et cetera.
Speaker 1:Yeah, all of that. Well, so there are these two, the yin and the yang of it. Right, you have to defend and you have to attack. And so the attack, of course, that's the antiparasitics, antifungals, all of that. But that's a short-term thinking that will only squish it temporarily, but it will all come back unless or until and unless you deal with the reason for which this has already happened. So back to the beginning. You have to get the industrial toxins out of you and out of your life, so that will be the heavy metals, and you need to correct the microbiome in your gut. You need to stop the inflow of things that are breaking it. So all the antibiotics, I mean you are such a glowing example of just how bad it can get. I mean you said you woke up in your 30s or thereabouts.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I was 31. Yeah, and then you had to do all of that needed needed to be done. You needed to get the toxicities toxic things out of you. Yeah, they needed to stop the additional inflow. You had to rebuild your microbiome, you had to switch how you're eating, and that allowed you to be more creative in your thinking, because the the sick body produces less than optimal thoughts yeah, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, I had to go through a period of replacing all the metal in my mouth and then obviously doing several rounds of heavy metal detoxes as well, because, yeah, it might be out of, might be out of the teeth, but how much of that is already leached and is stored in in your cells? You've still got to get that that out as well, right, yes?
Speaker 1:yeah, well, so far, I mean, the medical approach is either edta or dmps, which are chemicals, and they they have to be done under medical supervision because they're quite indiscriminate. They take out of you not just the heavy metals, they also take all the electropositive elements like calcium and magnesium. So you need to compensate for that. If you're using EDTA With zeolite, it's much easier because it only grabs the high or large size molecules. It's sort of like having a fishnet that has fairly large openings in it. If you have tight fishnet, only everything gets caught. If you open it up, the little fish will swim through and only the large fish get caught. Similarly with this with the zeolite, the large molecules, like mercury and fish, get caught. Similarly with this with the zeolite, the large molecules like mercury and lead get caught and the little ones, like calcium and magnesium, are not. So that's really advantageous that way.
Speaker 1:And then the humic, that's readily available. You put that in to start building the terrain. You must rebuild the terrain and you must feed your body. I mean we could go into all the nutritionals. So we mentioned the five white foods of death, all of which you know, all the refined stuff, all of the items that are in the grocery stores that are in a box with a barcode on it. I can promise you that they're not a contribution to your health.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah. One of the things that I tend to do with clients, and the way that I look at it myself, is people need to do what I call an outside-in detox, which is to stop exposing yourself to toxins or to minimize. It's probably impossible to completely eliminate being exposed, but do as much as you can to minimize and then do the outside into detoxes. Right, whatever's in there that shouldn't be in there, let's, let's try and release that?
Speaker 1:yeah. So to unpack it right, we have the air, water, food, cosmetics, cleaning products, furniture, automobiles, all of the layers of our interactions with the world. Yeah, all the inputs yeah, they have to be evaluated and reviewed and changed.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, it forms an. I mean, I know we're talking about fungus and parasites, but I do a lot of work with people with skin conditions, particularly acne as well, and that forms such an important part of the process to you know, a stop being exposed or at least reduce the exposure, and then then, b try and get as much of the toxins out as you can in a, in a safe and manageable way as well. You know you don't want to be causing herxheimer reactions, right, which which is based for those not sure what that is. It's where, generally, you can't release the toxins that are coming out of the cells effectively and you're recirculating around your body and it makes you feel pretty, pretty terrible flu-like, flu-like symptoms and off, and then your actual symptoms whatever problem you had tend to get worse as well.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think the metaphor I would use is trying to empty a theater. You have two exits, the doors are only this wide, only two people at a time, and so if scream fire, well there's going to be a whole jam at the doors. That's the Herxheimer reaction. Yeah, that's a good analogy. You need to drain it at the speed at which the exits allow. So, whatever your elimination pathways are myself, for example, I'm a poor methylator with the MTHFR genetics, so I'm very slow at methylating. I need to support that. Some people are okay with it, some are not. I think that's why the dentistry is able to get away with still using mercury, because some people don't mind, some people are okay with it. It's only about 35% or 40% of the population that get destroyed by it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I would probably suggest that those that don't mind having it are probably not particularly well-educated as to the effects that it has.
Speaker 1:Yeah, of course, but they are not destroyed by it.
Speaker 2:They're just diminished.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you talked a little bit about glyphosate earlier, kind of looking at it from the other point of view. What role does organic food play in preventing fungal and parasite overgrowth?
Speaker 1:Well, in the sense that you stop the inflow of toxic chemicals. Herbicides and pesticides are tremendously rich in contributing to the problem. So when you start eating foods that are grown without the herbicide and pesticide and on fields that are not toxic especially this glyphosate business is terrible because it leaves trace amounts of this antibiotic. Glyphosate was originally patented as an antibiotic. Contemplate that and the reason is because it kills the microbes at the root of the plant is because it kills the microbes at the root of the plant. If I were a plant, my roots would be the villi in my intestine. So when I ingest toxic things, I will stop the ability of my villi to extract nutrients out of that which is passing through my digestive system. Yeah, through my digestive system. Yeah, I don't know how many generations there are in the United States before humanity goes extinct if we don't change our ways. One the soil management right. There probably are maybe 30 or 40 crops left before the soil becomes unusable. That's 30 or 40 years. That's two generations max.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's if they're not all turned into solar and wind farms before then, anyway. Well, what will you eat? Well, exactly, I know.
Speaker 1:Right, so if you have no food, then you don't have the population.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Remember, humanity was a billion on the planet before the Industrial Revolution. There were two billion on the planet right after World War II, and then it took off, and it's mainly because of the revolution in how we did agriculture. We could grow more food more effectively because the fertilizer allowed us to do it, so we're pretty good at growing calories, but look at the medical disaster that we have created in the process.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, more chronic disease than ever in history.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's it. When I was a child, the rate of let's just pick something like autism was 1 in 20,000 or something like that. Now it's one in 25 or 30. So I never in my life, I never met anyone seriously on the spectrum. I now recognize that I was actually on the spectrum anyway, mainly because of the toxicity that came upon me in my childhood.
Speaker 1:Injecting of chemicals is not very helpful. It destroys the immune system, it alters the brain. It alters the brain. It alters the microbiome's ability to create the neurotransmitters. So it's skewing how we think, it's skewing how we perform. Anyway, the prospects are not great if we don't change our ways. You said, well, eat organic food, absolutely. Here's a point that I would like to make. We individually, each one of us as a consumer, hold the key to what happens, because money is the oxygen in the economy. Wherever you put the money, that's where the flame glows brighter. So if you want more of illness and more of damage, then spend your money on things that do that, because they will make more to replace that which you consume. So think hard about this. It's your individual decision, each one of us that decides what is made more of or less of. Just direct your spending wisely.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I completely agree. I would say the best way to vote is to vote with your dollar.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:Not your quickness. Yeah, I mean, I would say the best way to vote is to vote with your dollar, not your quickness, yeah, yeah, but voting for a competition is probably not going to get you the result that you want, but that's a whole other podcast. One more thing that we kind of haven't touched on, but it's related to heavy metals, and I don't know if this is something you've looked into in any detail. But what do you think about the metals that allegedly are being sprayed in the sky? Julie, a 47 year old who works in computer sales, came to see me complaining of lifelong irritable bowel syndrome, which included severe abdominal pain and bloating, loose and very frequent stalls, along with hot flushes, menstrual brain fog and low energy, which affected her work performance. After taking comprehensive history, plus running some labs, I discovered that Julie had a parasite infection which may have been causing the loose stools, a methane producing bacterial overgrowth that was almost certainly causing the abdominal bloating and pain, a leaky gut, low levels of digestive enzymes, as well as eating too many high oxalate foods on her vegetarian diet. So Julie reduced the high oxalate foods on her vegetarian diet. So Julie reduced the high oxalate foods from her diet. Plus, she took a broad spectrum antimicrobial supplement to help with the parasites and the bacteria in her gut, probiotics to increase her good bacteria and help repair her gut lining. She also took prebiotics to help feed the commensal bacteria, digestive enzymes to improve her digestion and herbs to help clear the toxic lipopolysaccharides from her system produced by the overgrowth of gram-negative bacteria.
Speaker 2:At the end of the program, julie reported that her health had never been better. In her own words, the improvement is staggering. Never been better. In her own words, the improvement is staggering. The abdominal pain and bloating was gone, her stools were back to normal, her energy was up, she no longer had brain fog or hot flashes and her immune system had improved, as she no longer suffered from frequent bugs and colds. If you're suffering like Julie was and you want to get to the root cause of your problem, you can arrange a consultation with me at bodycheckcouk. That's B-O-D-Y-C-H-E-K, and if we're a good fit, I could help you achieve the same kind of results as Julie. Now back to the podcast.
Speaker 1:Well, now we're really deep into it, right? So there are so many things that our industrial age has brought upon us the weather control. Well, that's the military-industrial complex that feels entitled to run the world, entitled to run the world regardless of who we elect or how we what? The bleating of the sheep.
Speaker 1:I guess I'll put it this way a farmer, or a rancher maybe, who is raising cat cattle on his ranch cares deeply about the cattle to the degree that it's his income. So he will protect it from gophers so they don't break their legs in gopher holes. He'll protect it from coyotes so that the coyotes don't eat the young ones, and he'll protect it from I don't know too much sun or too much rain or whatever. He'll just feed the cattle as needed, when needed, but then in the fall, when it's time to load them up on the truck and send them off to the slaughterhouse, there's no great emotion about it. That's why they were raised. I'm thinking that the ruling class, the ones that are not seen, the ones behind the scenes, make decisions pretty much with that level of caring for us ordinary folks. They protect us from something or whatever. They make decisions that don't require them to consult us, which I think is well. That may be coming to an end, I don't know. I certainly I would like to have more say about my life.
Speaker 1:I would like to have more control over what happens with me, to me and for me. So perhaps we're at the edge right. Like I'm also into astrology, I don't know if that's worth mentioning or not, but we are switching from Pluto and Capricorn into Pluto and Aquarius. This is happening in well. 20th of November 2024 is when it officially kicks off, and the next 20 years will be quite different from the previous 20 years. So we'll see how that goes. Society thinking, emotional approach to things. We'll see how that goes. So okay.
Speaker 1:So you're probably asking me what do I think about all of these things sprayed upon us? Well, I have no say in it. It happens. It's a toxic environment. My environment is toxic with that. Whether it's boron, strontium who knows what they put down or whether it's the glyphosate that's raining upon me now, or whether it's I don't know the forest fire smoke that I'm inhaling. I live in Canada, in British Columbia specifically, where we have experienced tremendous forest fires, tremendous forest fires which, you know, the pollution level is sort of what you see in New Delhi, in India, or worse. I actually wonder how people in India put up with the level of pollution that they're exposed to, but I guess that's what we saw in London in the 1770s right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but the Londoners didn't do too well, did they?
Speaker 1:No, of course not. It was the sickest thing. Tuberculosis was rampant throughout.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so with regards to strontium, barium, aluminium, which has been discussed, and based on what you said before about heavy metals, I guess they could potentially have an effect on fungal parasite. Absolutely.
Speaker 1:Remember that, the story of the fungus and the parasites versus the environment. I see it as if I were stronger, I would not get infected, I would not succumb. So I'm.
Speaker 2:I really advocate for detoxification and nutritional strengthening more than anything so for those, for those metals, and that because I know aluminium is different, isn't it in terms of like you can use, use silica water and ionic foot baths.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think silica is the only decent antidote to high aluminium. Right? Well, mind you, zeolite is a silicate. It may bind. I don't know. I don't have the numbers to support it, I don't know. Yeah, okay, we do make a superfood that we call oracil, which is heavily loaded with tabasheer, which is the silica as found in the bamboo plants. The sap of the bamboo is loaded with this. You may know, bamboo is the strongest plant in nature yeah, so strong shim and barium.
Speaker 2:Would zeolite be good for those, do you think, or I'm not sure I don't have an answer for it, I don't know. Yeah, yeah, I mean, I, I, I use zeolite, I use chlorella, you know, I try, I try and cover all the bases as best I can, right yeah, just they just kind of don't know.
Speaker 2:We just don't know what's in the air, do we? I mean, we've got some idea, but, um, I don't know if we, if we completely know for sure, what would be? Just to finish up, what would be perhaps, let's say, someone, they've got a fungal and or parasite overgrowth, what would be your top three?
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, we said that. Fight it from both sides. If it's unbearably bad, you need to use some antiparasitics. I would go with ivermectin or I would go with some oils. We have essential oils. We have a herbal product called Vermifuge, which is very capable of suppressing the growth. We have a herbal tincture called fungus ease that will deal with black mold or candida or that sort of thing. It will hold it, bring it down without side effects, which is really good. And then the second part is the metaphor I use is if you find yourself in a hole, you need to stop digging. You need to start filling the hole. So in this metaphor, I would use zeolite and humic and I would investigate my entire environment and detoxify. Just get rid of toxic inputs, yeah, and help your body. So if you're like myself, you need to also add things like glutathione to support the, the metal methyl aiding function. Yeah, yeah excellent.
Speaker 2:you know, to a degree it's similar. If you want to prevent it as well, as we've said, eat organic food, eat right for your metabolic type and you probably need to detox. If you're living in planet Earth now, you probably need to detox and, as we know, as metabolic typing advisors, we recommend people do regular detoxes and cleanses on an annual basis anyway.
Speaker 1:Yes, for sure, yeah, there there's zero chance you're not toxic.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, excellent. So, martin, this has been great. What? What have you got in the pipeline?
Speaker 1:you got anything coming up um no, I just want to preach more what to do. I think metabolic typing is one of those things that people should know about. It's not that it's the end of the world, but it will really move the needle health-wise. I really think that the four statements toxicity, malnutrition, stagnation and trauma, trauma must be at the forefront of everyone's thinking. Yeah, to have a more fulfilling life. What's new? Well, life enthusiast. Life-enthusiastcom is where people can find us. We offer the health coach service and we manufacture our own superfoods that really help people. With the nutrition side, with the malnutrition problem, we really compensate for the deficiencies of the current food production system.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I've just had another question pop in my head. Well, whilst I've got you here. Actually, something I've been hearing a fair bit about in the last few years is a link between parasites.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, that's a good one. Yeah, what is that dog dewormer, fenbendazole. I remember a fellow on TikTok, I think, and he says well, I was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer and I was told to go home and die. And I put myself on fenbendazole, which is a dog dewormer. And I am here still 10 years later, spending $20 a month on this product, not hundreds of thousands of dollars on this silly cancer treatment.
Speaker 1:Well, azole, as in fenbendazole, all of those, like fluconazole and many others, are essentially antifungal or antiparasitic. So if you take the drug, you're essentially putting into suspension the body's attempt to kill you through fungus, right? So if we start with, I am toxic, my body is trying to remove the toxicity and it's futile attempt to get rid of it. It's killing me in the process. So I'm going to stop that. So I will not die. I will continue carrying on toxic, but alive. That's how I see it. That's my inner logic. Is how I think this works, or why this works. I think all of the antifungal and antiparasitics will hold in suspension the activity, and antiparasitics will hold in suspension the activity.
Speaker 1:Here's a thought about cancer what if it's not an attack from outside? What if it's actually a metabolic disease that the body is creating because it needs something. Cancer cells create a lot of short-chain fatty acids, lactic. We don't check for others. It probably creates propionic and valeric and probably butyric as well, but we sure know that it's putting out a lot of lactic acid.
Speaker 1:Now, lactic acid is supposed to be created in the body through exercise, maximum exercise, and it's supposed to be richly present in the first part of your colon, right the ascending colon, and so if there's not enough of it there, maybe the body just goes and says I'm going to take some cells and I'm going to flip them, reverse the Krebs cycle, and I'm going to start making lactic acid because it's needed. Well, the successes I've had with people dealing with cancer where we detoxified them zeolite helped a lot, humic acid helped a lot, and we have a whole bunch of plant tools that upregulate the apoptosis, the shutting off of the normal cells. So I would say that the antifungals are probably helping to keep cancer in check using that same mechanism.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, it's an interesting subject. I mean, in one way, it makes sense If someone's got any serious illness, the body's going to be in a state of lack of vitality, and that's obviously when decomposers are on the scene. Right, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's definitely something I'm intrigued by, yeah.
Speaker 1:It totally makes sense that it would work. I mean, the important thought here is this it has been proven. Thomas Seyfried, if you want to look him up on YouTube, posted that back in 2007 or 8. Irrefutably, cancer is a metabolic disease, not genetic. These billions of dollars that have been thrown at cancer research, chasing the genetic specifics of it, is total futility, absolutely misdirected, stupid waste of money. It's been known, it's been proven, but it doesn't suit the pharmaceutical industry, because metabolic disease is solved by behavior. Yeah, it's not solved by a chemical drug, yeah, yeah, yeah, they don't want to hear this yeah, it's big business.
Speaker 2:Unfortunately, and as you know, as you alluded to before, I don't they don't really care whether we live or die, as long as they get their their, their money's worth, so to speak yeah, I'm only useful as a customer so long as I'm sick enough to want to have a drug, but not so sick as to die.
Speaker 1:They want to extend it as far as possible. Yeah, yeah awesome, martin.
Speaker 2:Thank you so much for your time. It's been a really interesting conversation. Was there anything else you wanted to add before we wrap up?
Speaker 1:get the message vote with their wallets, Vote with your wallet. My Slavic background sometimes shines through where I can say certain things, and the other thing is we have an amazing amount of power as long as we exercise it.
Speaker 1:So I would like people to engage in understanding that the collectivist approach to things worldwide politically is very negative. I'm absolutely sure of it because I grew up in it. It was a disaster. We have to find a way to support the individual in their free will and free act and there are all kinds of forces in play right now that are making that difficult. I think whoever is listening to it should give this some thought.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, agree, agree, 100% with what you just said. That's a really, a really great way to wrap up. Thank you.
Speaker 1:It's been an absolute pleasure.
Speaker 2:Pleasure, pleasure's all mine, thank you. So that's all from Martin and me for this week, but don't forget to join me same time, same place next week on the Radical Health Rebel podcast. Thanks for tuning in, remember to give the show a rating and a review, and I'll see you next time.
